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  Today is a BIG anniversary for me...but--of what?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today is a big anniversary day for me!.

  october 23, 1967, was a monday.

  i stood in front of district judge leo brewster as he sentenced me to six years in federal prison.. .

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  Bill Covert

  yeah, been there done that, 67 or 68 same issue same circumstance, only different sentence. The Sacramento judge fined $3,000 and 5 years probation. He figured prison for JW's was pointless and just a government expense. He was a fan of Abraham Lincoln and as during the Civil War one could buy their way out of army for $300, he just factored in inflation and made it $3,000.

  I share your feelings of resentment as to the absence of human feeling and willingness to sacrifice peoples lives in pure hypocrisy.
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  WATCHTOWER Is Trying To Put Cameras In All of Their Kingdom Halls

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of my best friends is in the security business.

  he told me the other day of how the watch tower has been in contact with his good friend and business associate.

  evidently they are inquiring about putting cameras into every kh so that they can do 24 hour monitoring.

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  That is to watch me tape letters and posts from this web site on their church doors, per Martin Luther!

  They need to watch close as to whether or not I do damage to provide evidence to get a restraining order.

  Saturday 6 KH's got the Thompsom Falls Newspaper article. Today they get the court exhibits

  Last night the Red Bluff Ca. where James Henderson the child molester is from got copies.

  I have taped lots of things to KH doors, even taped pretty pink panties when I had heard the swindler at the center of my dispute wife left him because of being homo.

  Realize I use tape not nails tacks like my exemplar Martin Luther, can't trigger a restraining order for damaging church property.
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  Is Child Abuse An Issue That You Personally Have Seen In The Organization?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as an elder, i saw one child abuse situation involving a man who wanted to be an elder and had i believe 8 children.

  he was not in our congregation when this all erupted.

  he denied it and moved to another hall and unbelievably, that body of elders wanted to appoint him since they believed his entire family was lying about him.

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  I Was only in one molestation about 1973. A 18 year old married man molested a child right in the Hall, the Elders meet with him that night, although the senior elders really didn't knew what to do because he was not baptized and kind of left it hanging. He lived right behind my house, so next morning I knocked on his door and told him "if you ever touch another child I will break your fucking neck!".

  He was out of town that afternoon. I called Brooklyn where they said we could phone ahead and bar him from entering into another KH in the L.A. area his father was in. I did and he was not allowed in a KH as long as I knew. The child's mom was just a study and because of that decisive action became a witness.
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  california fires

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a new video on jwtv the california fires, how things are being handled.

  it seems almost everyone managed to salvage his tie and razor.

  i will not comment on those who lost homes, sad no matter what.

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  Did the video say how many JW's lost houses in the Redding "Carr Fire", where I live? The shunning policy is all encompassing so I am isolated about local events from the fire.

  There was another major fire the "Happy Valley Fire" 16-18 years ago I sent a thousand dollars to local congregation handling donations back when I just had the "marked man" label, didn't even get a thank you.
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  How do you deal with the smoke?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hope you're not dealing with wildfires in your area.

  currently, california is under siege.

  we, in the sierra nevada foothills, had our major conflagration last october and needed to evacuate.

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  COC I just got back from the Carr fire area . between Redding and Whiskeytown Lake just devastation. I went to the Leweston road to work on a low bed. There was some fire burning by the road, evidently it made it to a 1/4 mile of Leweston and they think that part of the fire line will hold. lots and lots of powerline trucks planting new power poles. quite a sight. A lot of heat put off by the manzanita bushes.
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  How do you deal with the smoke?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hope you're not dealing with wildfires in your area.

  currently, california is under siege.

  we, in the sierra nevada foothills, had our major conflagration last october and needed to evacuate.

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  Article in Sat. paper. The "Carr" fire tornado spun 143 mph winds, 35,000-foot-tall plume per National Weather Service. Yes the ash from that night had pieces of tree bark. They are thinking this is the largest fire tornado in Calif. history and perhaps the strongest ever recorded.

  Could the WTB&TS 'spin' this as part of the last days?
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  How do you deal with the smoke?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hope you're not dealing with wildfires in your area.

  currently, california is under siege.

  we, in the sierra nevada foothills, had our major conflagration last october and needed to evacuate.

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  I am in Redding . Last Thursday the fire moved with a speed and intensity rarely seen by firemen, right in to the city.

  I listened to GM parts man tell someone that it was Armageddon. Another parts man went through the evacuation from sheriffs loudspeakers say "get out now" when the fire was on the other side of canyon, of which he said he was truly scarred.

  Actually I am headed out right now to work on a utility truck in the fire zone.

  A bit of history; the area burnt is covered with "manzanita" brush, burns REAL hot. the area was de nuded of vegetation by copper smelters over a hundred years ago. Just another example of man's foot prints on the earth.
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  JW culture of "informers" is very similar to Communist China under Mao

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first, let's look at what counsel is published by the watchtower and required as proper behavior in the congregation.. *** g88 9/8 p. 20 should i tell on my friend?

  ***understandably, you may not feel you have the spiritual qualifications to readjust an erring friend.

  but would it not make sense to see to it that the matter is reported to someone who is qualified to help?

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  Bill Covert

  Read Barbara Anderson article" Flawed Decree Conceals Criminals" "Watchtower docunents.org" as she researched Lev.5 :1. She used it in the A&E program on Romy Maples. Learn something new.
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  Former2free bio and intro

  by former2free in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  oh where to begin i am a born in witness witness mother and father and grandparents though only 2 of the 4. i was born in the early 80’s and immediately my parents faced the blood transfusion issue course in their minds at the time it wasn’t an issue it was not gonna happen.

  i don’t wanna go into too much detail but fortunately it worked out well as is evidenced by my writing of this back story.

  i had the usual spiritual goals that most witness children have i got baptized at 13 then i started running mics and doing sound and giving more talks.

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  Good to see you have not completely missed the boat. Connecting with your folks is the wisest thing you could of done. You are going to avoid a lot of regrets, and be able to show wife and in laws you are maturing into a real father yourself.

  You have perfect timing here. What you watched going on in Australia is a game changer for the WTB&TS. From my perspective 2013 was a turning point for the Organization in many ways but all the different moves they made centered around the molestation issue. The point everything turned on was a lady Candace Conti, nothing has been the same since she broke the molestation barrier.

  My input would be relax do not think you need to make any major stand right now. just key into your father in law. Even he a long time elder should be growing apprehensive as to the money moves being made at a time when he was expecting the "Great Tribulation" . Watch him close! Hopefully he was from my generation who came through the 1960's and is a solid man. If he starts questioning, then he will be open for discussion of issues raised in Australia. You could very well have some interesting conversations. Your connecting with your parents is will demonstrate a maturity on your part.

  I had a couple of people tell me that the Watchtower don't even try to enforce the shunning of families in the LA Ca. area among the Mexicans. Mexicans DON"T shun families! May by they know something the rest of us don't know.

  Bill
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  Dean Songer

  by Charles Gillette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a long time servant of the watchtower organization died this week.

  his name was dean songer.

  does anyone have any memories about him that they would like to share with us?

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  Bill Covert

  He was my Book Study conductor in Palmdale Calif late 1950's. I believe he was a engineer for Lockheed or another military fighter company. I remember him doing the Wt. radio program "Mr. Robbins and Mr. Lee' . Yes I remember his rimless glasses.